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Peer review paper 1

The main point that I got from this paper was that teachers need to not mark up a paper so bad because it discourages the students. Main points of the paper were that teachers need to give more constructive criticism rather than stressing over every error. Also that teacher’s think that they are helping us but we really it is hurting. I think that were a few parts of your paper that need a little work. First I think that you could work on the introduction and make it grab the readers attention more. Also, I think that the conclusion needs work to. I think that you have some of the main ideas there, they just need to be organized better. Other than that I think that your main idea paragraphs sound really good and make good points, just better organize some sentences and I think you will be good. I think that you have most of the elemnts that he is looking for in this paper. I think that you could work on the introduction and get a bit more of background information. Overall good job on the paper!

blog 5

Allen Summary: Allen explains how she doesn’t always like writing and that it doesn’t come easy to her. She also talks about how many great scholars in her field struggle with writing such as Bartholomae. She talks about the inspired writer and how it works against us. She argues that writing is “alien” to us. She tells us to not just send our writing to anyone to look over it, you have to send it to people that you believe are better that you at writing.

Allen response question: My experiences do compare to what Allen writes about. I have always thought that people who are good at writing, it just comes easy to them as Allen said. But after reading this article I do not believe that to be true anymore.

Murray Summary: In Murrays article All Writing is Autobiography, he tells us to not be afraid to make our writing personal. Murray writes mainly stories about himself nd about his life.

GRR: I have always been taught that when writing formal writing to never put yourself into the writing, such as the word I.

Questions:

1.     Murray wants us to consider making all the writing that we do more personal.

3.     Murrays writing is autobiographical, he doesn’t use quotes or other sources, he writes a lot of fiction. I think that Murray wanted to break out of the normal rules of scholarly writing because he wanted to show us that even if the writing is not completely true or if it’s about yourself, that it can still be good scholarly writing.

4.     There are many thinks that make Murrays article scholarly. He spent a lot of time it, it didn’t just come to him, he had people read it over and approve it, and many people like his writing.

5.     I think that Murrays idea of writing will change mine in the way that whenever I write from now on I will consider it to be more personal and to put myself into it. Yes I think that after reading this article it will encourage me to write differently.

MM:I think that understanding Murrays writing can help me to better understand how to put myself into everything that I write.

Dawkins Summary: In the article Teaching Punctuation as a Rhetorical Tool Dawkins try’s to convince us that handbooks for writing may not always be true. Dawkins says on page 143 that we need to get our sentences to say what mean and with the emphasis we intend. Dawkins is trying to say in the raising and lowering example that you can make a sentence really stick out with punctuation, or not if you don’t really want it to.

GRR: The treehouse was made of wood scrapes and cardboard, and was a great place for my sister and her friends to play.

My sisters treehouse was made out of wood scrapes and cardboard, and was a great place for her to play with her friends.

My sisters treehouse was a great place for her and her friends to play, the treehouse was made out of wood scrapes and cardboard.

What I did to write these sentences was just use different wording in each to explain the same thing.

Questions:

2.     Dawkins believes that not everyone needs to follow the same laws of writing. Dawkins says that handbooks get many things wrong. Punctuation rules in handbooks are not always something all good writers us, punctuation such as commas are not always so important.

3.     Raising has to do with using commas and semicolons where they are needed, it also brings emphasis to the sentence. And lowering is the opposite of raising. It impacts the way we use punctuation because it can make more emphasis on a specific sentence.

5.I think that main thing that I know about punctuation after reading Dawkins article is that depending on where you put punctuation in a sentence can make or break it, or make it really stand out or not stand out.

6. When I write, I always worry about punctuation. I mainly worry about commas and if my sentence is running on for to long. I think that I worry about these things because I never really understood how to use them. I think that after reading Dawkins article I will not worry as much about them while im writing.

MM: I think that we read this instead of getting it explained to us because I think that Dawkins view of this article is much more assertive than a teacher could be while explaining it to us. I think by reading this article I gained how to use punctuation better than I did before.

Comments: I think that the Dawkins article was very hard and confusing to read, and I don’t think that I got much of the main point out of it.

Blog 4

Stedman Summary: In Stedman’s article Annoying ways people use sources, he starts off by comparing slow drivers to people who use annoying writing on page 243, which I totally agree with analogy and I think it a good way to think about it. He gives good examples of the write way to put quotes into writing, such as the short zombie story on page 245. I really like on page 246 and 247 how he says it is okay to start or end a paragraph with a quote as long as you do it right. I never knew you could even do that writing and I think it would be something interesting to attempt. Another point Stedman makes in this article is to not move on to the next topic to quickly. I think that the main point that Stedman wanted people to get out of this article was that when you are writing, you can not write and just throw things in there like people know what you are talking about. You have to make them go in an order and explain them in ways that other people but yourself will be able to understand. I thought that this was a very good article for students to read and I really enjoyed it, because it gave me a new view on how to use quotes and how not to be “Annoying” with them as Stedman stated.

Stedman Questions: I think that all of these authors articles compare to one another in the way that they all are saying how writers need to think from the readers point of view sometimes and what they want them to get out of their writing. I also think that all really emphasize the importance of using quotes in your writing and properly citing them. In the past I have been taught to use like two or three quotes in each paragraph of my essays, and usually no more or no less. This can sometimes get annoying because I feel that sometimes there is no reason for a quote in a certain paragraph, and sometimes there are reasons to use a lot of them. I think that my views about how to use sources have really changed, especially after reading the Stedman article and seeing how many different ways you can use quotes and where you can put them, such as at the beginning of a paragraph. 

Blog 3

GRR: There are many places that I go for help and ideas when I am writing. The first way I would get help is asking my friends for their ideas and inputs. After that I would go to teachers and parents. But when it comes to proof reading a paper I will always go to my teachers first because it is their corrections that I would trust most out of anyone’s.

Porter article summary: In Porter’s article Intertextuality and the Discourse Community” he try’s to define exactly what plagiarism is, and how to define it. I really like how he uses the example of Jefferson on page 89 and 90 about if he turned the Declaration into a teacher it would be considered plagiarism. Porter brings up the idea on page 93 that every new writing is just an addition or and update to previously written things. Porter believes that all writing assignments should be intertextual. I think that overall this was a good chapter to read, but the last three pages were a little hard for me to understand what Porter was talking about the whole romantic writer.

2. Im not 100% sure that I understand what Porter is talking about when he says intertext, but I think he is just say that people take bits of pieces from everyone else’s writing to make their own writing. If this is what Porter is say then I do agree with him that by doing this it does take away from the individuality and importance of peoples writing.

3. I think Porter calls an autonomous writer romantic because when people read there writing they think that it is so much better than it actually is because they think it all of the authors own words and thoughts when really they came from other people.  

4. Prior to reading this I thought that writing should be evaluated on how a teacher grades it or what grade you got on a specific paper determines how good it was. This is always the way that my writing has been evaluated in the past, and sometimes I feel like it is not fair for teachers to evaluate you just based on the format they gave you to write the paper. Sometimes even if you go outsides the format or what the teacher conciders “acceptability” it is still good work, but the teacher is just so caught up in the format that of how it’s supposed to look, and when they do not see that they automatically say it is no good.

5. I think that if Porter believes in the whole intertextuality idea, that he cannot possibly believe what he has just written in this chapter are all of his own words and original thoughts. Therefore I think that it would be impossible for him to write an original article on anything based on this idea of intertextuality.

6. Porter says that the harm in imagining writing like this is that it is really never an individual piece of writing, all of those ideas had to come from somewhere. I think that in the classroom setting it brings up the problem of, well if these are not my own thoughts and this paper is not individual, than whose is it? This also causes problems for students because it can cause them to try and become great writers without taking all of the necessary steps.

MM: Porter’s study has greatly changed the way I look at writing. Before I thought that everything I wrote was original and my idea except for the quotes. But after reading this article, it has taught me that nothing is really mine I feel like and someone before me had already that idea or said those words. I don’t know that his article will change the way I write, but it will definitely make me look at writing in a different way than before. 

Blog 2

Summary of Rosenberg Reading: Rosenberg talks about how hi experience in college with reading did not start off so great. Talks about rhetorical reading and how important it is. He talks about how most writers direct there writing to a specific audience. I think that Rosenberg was trying to explain to us in this article that reading may not always be fun or you may not think it is useful, but that may just be because you haven’t look deep enough into it.

Summary from book: In this section the authors talk about what is actually true and what people believe to be true. Kantz makes a lot of good arguments in this chapter and many of them I agree with. She first talks about how teachers need to tell their students what they are doing wrong and give them constructive criticism, she explained this through the story of Shirley. She also talks about being an encoder and a decoder and how important it is in writing. Kantz also talks about how teachers need to teach students how to gather good arguments from a textbook. The most important thing to take from this chapter for students is that textbooks are not always completely filled with facts.

Rhetoric: When the word rhetoric is used, it means to used language effectively or in the correct contexts based on who the readers are. It has to do with academic articles because depending on what language you use or who your intended readers are may change the meaning of a word or phrase.

Rhetorical: It is how we understand, interpret, and strategically use writing.

1.     I think that Kantz is saying that facts opinions and arguments are all things we get or take from other people and that are usually never truly our own.

2.     How sources can disagree in different ways. Students expect all the correct   answers to problems and research to be in a textbook. Students think that the things they read in textbooks are always facts but a lot of times they are just an opinion. Students need to learn how teach people, show a different view point, and answer questions in their papers rather than just repeating the information they have gathered. I feel that I still do not have a great understanding of these things, but through practice writing I will be able to further understand them.

3.     Yes, it taught me that using real life stories can be a very good way to persuade a person to think what you want. It can also help the reader to better understand what the writer is talking about, and the point they are trying to get off.

6. Yes I do think that after reading this chapter my views will be changed. I thing that we a look at a textbook not to always take it as 100% true facts. And that when I do writing and research to come up with my own ideas and try to go beyond just what I have already read.

Meta Moments Question: Kantz is talking about using rhetoric a lot because she is talking about persuasive writing. And she is using plagiarism in these research papers and citing them but they are not necessarily true facts.

Paper Idea: Plagiarism

First homework response

I would define the word argument as a disagreement between people when talking about a certain topic. Even though I consider it to be a disagreement, I still think that argument can be good at times. When people use the word argument, it seems like most of the time they are using it in a bad way. For example, my girlfriend and I had a big argument today. In the academic setting the word argument is used in a much different way. I think that in the class room arguments over certain topics can be a good thing for the students because it gets them to think about different view points other than just their own. The major difference I see between these two is that one type of argument is hurting you and making you feel bad, and the other type is helping you to better learn.

1.     Greene thinks that reading plays a very big role when it comes to writing. He is saying that since we are usually not the first ones to research a certain topic, that we must research a lot of different writing and pick and choose the things that we would like to use.

2.     Greene quotes Burke again because he is trying to get his point across of how important argument is when it comes to writing and research. The metaphor that Burke wrote is about walking into a conversation and just picking up wherever the people are in the conversation. In a way I think that this is plagiarism because you are taking other peoples ideas and adding onto them.

3.      Framing helps you to set up ideas on a topic that are conflicting to your argument. The metaphor that he uses, is that framing is like a camera lens because the author focuses in on one part of an argument that he wants to convey to the reader. This is similar to how a camera can focus in on whatever you would like to take a picture of. The concept of framing is important to Greene because he thinks that by using framing you can make the reader remember what you were talking about and your stance on what you were writing about. Framing allows a writer to focus in on the main point of the argument so that you will remember what it was about.

1.     Yes, I think Greene’s article to represent a conversation. I think he is directing the conversation towards the readers on how to become a better writer. He frames his arguments by using other stories and writings from other people. Yes, I think he does use argument in his writing, he does this by arguing for point to use argument in your writing.